Legislature(1999 - 2000)

03/04/1999 01:20 PM House TRA

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      HOUSE TRANSPORTATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                                   
                   March 4, 1999                                                                                                
                     1:20 p.m.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Beverly Masek, Chair                                                                                             
Representative Andrew Halcro, Vice Chair                                                                                        
Representative Bill Hudson                                                                                                      
Representative John Cowdery                                                                                                     
Representative Jerry Sanders                                                                                                    
Representative Albert Kookesh                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Allen Kemplen                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
* HOUSE BILL NO. 84                                                                                                             
"An Act relating to international airports revenue bonds; and                                                                   
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     MOVED HB 84 OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
(* First public hearing)                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS ACTION                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 84                                                                                                                     
SHORT TITLE: INTERNATIONAL AIRPORTS REVENUE BONDS                                                                               
SPONSOR(S): RULES BY REQUEST OF THE GOVERNOR                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Jrn-Date    Jrn-Page           Action                                                                                           
 2/10/99       184     (H)  READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRAL(S)                                                                   
 2/10/99       185     (H)  TRANSPORTATION, FINANCE                                                                             
 2/10/99       185     (H)  FISCAL NOTE (REV)                                                                                   
 2/10/99       185     (H)  GOVERNOR'S TRANSMITTAL LETTER                                                                       
 3/04/99               (H)  TRA AT  1:00 PM CAPITOL 17                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
KURT PARKAN, Deputy Commissioner                                                                                                
Department of Transportation and Public Facilities                                                                              
3132 Channel Drive                                                                                                              
Juneau, Alaska  99801-7898                                                                                                      
Telephone:  (907) 465-6977                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified on purpose of HB 84 and answered                                                                 
                     questions.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
JOSEPH L. PERKINS, Commissioner                                                                                                 
Department of Transportation and Public Facilities                                                                              
3132 Channel Drive                                                                                                              
Juneau, Alaska  99801-7898                                                                                                      
Telephone:  (907) 465-3901                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT:  Answered questions on HB 84.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
DEVEN MITCHELL, Acting Debt Manager                                                                                             
Treasury Division                                                                                                               
Department of Revenue                                                                                                           
P.O. Box 110405                                                                                                                 
Juneau, Alaska  99811-0405                                                                                                      
Telephone:  (907) 465-3750                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified on HB 84; discussed the process of                                                               
                     securing and selling the bonds authorized the                                                              
                     previous year.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CLIFFORD T. ARGUE, Staff Vice President                                                                                         
Properties and Facilities                                                                                                       
Alaska Airlines                                                                                                                 
P.O. Box 68900                                                                                                                  
Seattle, Washington  98168-0900                                                                                                 
Telephone:  (206) 433-3184                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HB 84.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
TAPE 99-7, SIDE A                                                                                                               
Number 0001                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BEVERLY MASEK called the House Transportation Standing                                                                    
Committee meeting to order at 1:20 p.m.  Members present at the                                                                 
call to order were Representatives Masek, Halcro, Sanders and                                                                   
Kookesh.  Representatives Hudson and Cowdery arrived at 1:21 p.m.                                                               
and 1:22 p.m., respectively.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HB 84 - INTERNATIONAL AIRPORTS REVENUE BONDS                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 0051                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MASEK announced the committee would hear House Bill No. 84,                                                               
"An Act relating to international airports revenue bonds; and                                                                   
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Number 0093                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
KURT PARKAN, Deputy Commissioner, Department of Transportation and                                                              
Public Facilities (DOT/PF), came forward to explain the purpose of                                                              
the bill.  He reminded members that the original bond authorization                                                             
bill was approved by the legislature the previous year by a vote of                                                             
58-2; he said HB 84 is the final piece of authorization required                                                                
for the second phase of bonding for the funding requirements for                                                                
the Anchorage International Airport (AIA) Terminal Redevelopment                                                                
Project.  He then called attention to three handouts:  a full-color                                                             
article from a trade magazine, "Passenger Terminal World," which                                                                
discusses the terminal project; a page titled, "Uses of Funds"; and                                                             
another page titled, "Summary Project Schedule."                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. PARKAN informed members that following his brief overview,                                                                  
Deven Mitchell from the Department of Revenue would discuss the                                                                 
process they had gone through in securing and selling the bonds                                                                 
authorized the previous year.  Following that, David Eberle                                                                     
[Director, Construction and Operations, Central Region, DOT/PF],                                                                
who is program manager for Gateway Alaska in charge of the terminal                                                             
development project, would briefly review the "Summary Project                                                                  
Schedule."  Mr. Parkan offered to provide a detailed briefing on                                                                
the terminal project at a later date.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Number 0285                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. PARKAN testified as follows:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     As you know, last year we presented to the legislature a $230                                                              
     million package for redevelopment of the Anchorage                                                                         
     International Airport terminal.  That bill was reduced by the                                                              
     legislature by approximately $25 million, in anticipation of                                                               
     the DOT successfully securing additional federal dollars to                                                                
     ... plug that hole.  We'd applied for the federal dollars                                                                  
     early on, but weren't as optimistic in our ultimate success,                                                               
     and so we included the full $230 [million] in our proposal.                                                                
     Well, we were successful in getting the letter of intent                                                                   
     [LOI], the federal dollars - discretionary dollars - from the                                                              
     FAA [Federal Aviation Administration].  We had applied for                                                                 
     about $67 million. ... I think our final approval was about                                                                
     $48 million, of which $25 million is for projects related to                                                               
     the terminal development project.  The rest of the LOI funds                                                               
     are for a couple of other projects, one being the resurfacing                                                              
     of "6-left, 24-right" runway, the second phase, the first                                                                  
     phase of which ... has just been completed.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     So, we did go after the federal dollars; we were successful in                                                             
     getting the federal dollars.  The problem that we have                                                                     
     experienced, though, is that the LOI - the letter of intent,                                                               
     the discretionary dollars - will come to us over a period of                                                               
     ten years.  We need - to complete this project on time, and to                                                             
     satisfy our cash flow requirements - to get that money now.                                                                
     The purpose of this bill is to give us the authorization for                                                               
     the additional $25 million, to essentially borrow so that we                                                               
     can complete the project within the four-year time frame that                                                              
     the project should be completed.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     The money, the bonds, will not increase the cost of the                                                                    
     project.  The funds to repay the bonds will come out of the --                                                             
     essentially, the funds that we will be getting from the LOI,                                                               
     from the FAA.  It's a pretty simple bill, actually:  No new                                                                
     money, no cost to the users, essentially.  The federal                                                                     
     government is going to be repaying the bonds, essentially.                                                                 
     And we absolutely need to get these bonds sold this year in                                                                
     order to keep on with the schedule.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 0497                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. PARKAN referred to the handout titled, "Uses of Funds."  He                                                                 
emphasized that $230 million has always been the cost of the                                                                    
project, and is still the cost today.  The first of the 1999 Series                                                             
Bonds was sold in February for approximately $179 million.  The                                                                 
Phase II bonds, which are the subject of HB 84, would be for the                                                                
$24.5 million.  In the FHWA [Federal Highway Administration]                                                                    
column, the $26,300,000 is earmarked from federal highway dollars                                                               
for the roadway that approaches the terminal; that has always been                                                              
part of the project, as well.  Mr. Parkan concluded, "We told the                                                               
airlines that we would attempt to get additional federal dollars                                                                
when we brought this project to them for their approval, and we                                                                 
have accomplished that, as well."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Number 0574                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOHN COWDERY said as he recalled, when the $179                                                                  
million was proposed the previous year, the project could be built                                                              
for that.  Although legislators had known the federal funds would                                                               
be available, he believes they also knew that it wouldn't be in the                                                             
form of cash.  He asked whether Mr. Parkan believed they would get                                                              
the extra money from the federal government as cash or in some                                                                  
other form.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. PARKAN replied, "At the time when we were discussing this last                                                              
year, the LOI application had been prepared. ... Basically, the LOI                                                             
is a reimbursement.  But it would be a certain amount of money to                                                               
... plug that hole that was taken out of the original $230                                                                      
[million]. ... The scale of the project was never reduced.  The                                                                 
project has always been a $230 million project.  A portion of it                                                                
would be funded out of the bonds, and a portion of it was hoped to                                                              
be funded out of the LOI.  The problem with the LOI is that we                                                                  
don't get it in one lump sum.  If we'd gotten it in one lump sum,                                                               
it'd be much easier to deal with our cash flow problem.  But since                                                              
... it's spread out over time, we do need to get that bonding                                                                   
authority."                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COWDERY said he would ask his staff to review that,                                                              
but he recalled that the airport was going to be built with the                                                                 
$179 million.  He requested that the current committee hold an                                                                  
oversight hearing the next week, before passing HB 84 out, to see                                                               
how the project is going, what the expenditures have been, and what                                                             
design changes there have been.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MASEK indicated she and the department representatives had                                                                
already discussed having such an overview.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 0860                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. PARKAN said last year's legislation had required the DOT/PF to                                                              
provide the legislature with an expenditure report by January 1; he                                                             
believes they had submitted a copy to every member.  In addition,                                                               
the legislature had assigned a staff member to sit in on the                                                                    
meetings, to do a review and oversight of the process for the                                                                   
project.  Bob Walsh in Anchorage, who has been attending those                                                                  
meetings regularly, would be available for the legislature's                                                                    
assistance, as well.  However, Mr. Parkan himself offered to                                                                    
provide an updated report on the project.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. PARKAN restated that the project has always been characterized                                                              
by the DOT/PF as a $230 million project.  He explained, "We've                                                                  
never really said that it could be done for $179 million.  If we                                                                
only had $179 million, we would certainly have to cut something out                                                             
of the original plan of finance."  He said the airlines have                                                                    
approved a full-scale project.  This is merely giving the DOT/PF                                                                
the opportunity to take advantage of the federal dollars that they                                                              
sought and got the discretionary funds for.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Number 0938                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MASEK and REPRESENTATIVE COWDERY both said they had seen                                                                  
copies of the report; Chair Masek offered to have it at next week's                                                             
hearing, in order to discuss any questions that might arise.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. PARKAN agreed to that.  He pointed out that in a project of                                                                 
this size, little things may change as they go from a conceptual                                                                
design to the actual project design.  He offered to share with the                                                              
committee the latest developments in the schedule.  He noted that                                                               
they are getting ready to tear down Concourse "C" this spring and                                                               
summer, for example, and are moving ahead fairly aggressively to                                                                
get this down.  They want to minimize impact to the traveling                                                                   
public.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. PARKAN explained that an LOI is an application to the federal                                                               
government for discretionary dollars.  He stated, "The FAA looks at                                                             
discretionary funds, and they sort of prioritize them.  They won't                                                              
give high ranking in a priority for a building.  For the terminal                                                               
building, for example, we wouldn't be able to really get funding -                                                              
an LOI funding - for a terminal project; probably we'd be the only                                                              
ones in the country that were ever successful to do that.  They                                                                 
look at the asphalt and the aprons and the airside projects as                                                                  
higher priorities.  So, we went after the airside portions of the                                                               
terminal development project for our request, for the LOI.  They                                                                
look at that and say, ... 'It's our intent to give you X amount of                                                              
dollars over the course of ten years.'  And subject to the                                                                      
availability of congressional legislative funding, they will commit                                                             
to giving us about $3-$3.5 million a year over the next ten years.                                                              
So, it's basically a promise to us, so that we can count on that                                                                
funding coming in for the purposes of establishing our CIP [capital                                                             
improvement project] program.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 1065                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MASEK asked what the time frame is to get this LOI.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. PARKAN replied, "The LOI, we will start getting our first                                                                   
payment on that in March.  As you may know, ... the authorization                                                               
for the AIP [airport improvement program] runs out March 31 of this                                                             
year.  The FAA has committed to us that they will award that money                                                              
to us - that first payment this year - by March 31.  So, we're                                                                  
going to start getting it this year, and it runs out to the year                                                                
2008."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COWDERY asked when the money will be paid out for                                                                
the different expenditures.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Number 1133                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
JOSEPH L. PERKINS, Commissioner, Department of Transportation and                                                               
Public Facilities, came forward and answered as follows:                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     You have to have sufficient money on hand for the contract                                                                 
     amount.  It has nothing to do with when you pay people.  If I                                                              
     award you a $10 million contract, and I pay it over two years,                                                             
     I have to have $10 million sitting in the bank the day we sign                                                             
     the contract.  This is the problem in this case.  When we move                                                             
     on with this, if we don't have this $25 million to back us up,                                                             
     then we will not award these contracts.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COWDERY asked whether they would award all the                                                                   
contracts for 1999 right now for the whole project.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER PERKINS replied:                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     We will be awarding a lot of them.  However, if there is any                                                               
     question whatsoever about this $25 million not coming, then we                                                             
     are going to award no contracts in '99, because we're going to                                                             
     have to reduce the scope of this project, which means that                                                                 
     we're not going to start off and do demolition and all of                                                                  
     that.  We'll have to fall back because our entire design, our                                                              
     entire contract development, has been based ... on a project                                                               
     for $230 million.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     And the $179 [million]:  we never agreed that we were going to                                                             
     bring this project in for a bonded amount of $179 [million].                                                               
     ... We asked for $203 or $204 [million], and we fully expected                                                             
     to get that other $25 million.  In fact, in some of the                                                                    
     discussions was that, 'Hey, we'll take the $25 million out,                                                                
     and if you can't get it from the feds, come back next year and                                                             
     we'll figure out another way to get it.'  Well, we got it from                                                             
     the feds, so we're not coming back and asking for new money.                                                               
     All we're asking for is to let us bond with the equity against                                                             
     the bonds, the money that we got from the feds.  That's really                                                             
     all we're asking.  But to not approve this will stop this                                                                  
     project for a year, completely, while we repackage, because                                                                
     we'll have to delete something.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     It gets fairly simple if you'll look at this sheet ["Uses of                                                               
     Funds"].  You're not going to take the FHWA money out.  What                                                               
     you're going to probably do is you're not going to do the                                                                  
     existing terminal renovation.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Number 1259                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COWDERY said he has information that the scope of                                                                
the project has changed, and he provided examples including the                                                                 
baggage facility and additional office space.  He asked for                                                                     
confirmation.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER PERKINS responded:                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Representative Cowdery, what you do on a project like this,                                                                
     when you're in the planning stage, you've got all of these                                                                 
     general-scope ideas; then you fill the scope in.  And this is                                                              
     just like if I was to ask all the [legislators] how big you                                                                
     want me to build your office.  It's going to be all big. ...                                                               
     When we opened this up, to go into design, then you had                                                                    
     everybody wanting everything, from every airline and every                                                                 
     user there.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     To give you an example, we did not have a baggage system in                                                                
     our original proposal.  We have a proposal from the airlines.                                                              
     They want to put an $11 million baggage system in; we're not                                                               
     going to do that.  We had a proposal, and we had looked at                                                                 
     connecting the two terminals.  Well, the connector is fine, as                                                             
     long as you walk on it.  Now, ... we have people who want a                                                                
     moving walkway; so, instead of going to a $2 or $3 million                                                                 
     connector, a moving walkway is probably going to get us up                                                                 
     around $15 million.  So, we have made decisions in that regard                                                             
     ... on the project.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 1329                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COWDERY asked whether they were still going to have                                                              
the connection, without the moving walkway.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER PERKINS replied:                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     We may or we may not, because as these numbers change, and as                                                              
     we finalize the various things, we are constantly looking at                                                               
     ... our end product.  And what we do, and what you always do                                                               
     on a major project like this, is you manage contingency; and                                                               
     that is exactly what we're managing right now, is the                                                                      
     contingency that we have, as we distribute it out to those                                                                 
     items ... that we would like to have.  You will not get, in                                                                
     this project, everything that everybody wants; it'd cost                                                                   
     another $100 million.  And this is true no matter what you                                                                 
     build, even in your own house.  So, ... there's things that                                                                
     we're going to scope back, but I don't know exactly what                                                                   
     they'll be as we're moving along.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     But one thing that you've always got to look at is if you are                                                              
     going to do something and forever keep an addition being built                                                             
     on it, by putting an extra foundation wall in, we should do                                                                
     that, so you can have the potential of expanding out.  We're                                                               
     looking at those type[s] of things.  And I attended a meeting                                                              
     about a month ago where we went through all of those various                                                               
     options that we have in the project.  I'm pretty happy.  I                                                                 
     think they're doing a darn good job with it, and to tell you                                                               
     whether this walkway will go or not is going to depend a                                                                   
     little bit on how much money we have left in this contingency                                                              
     as we go along.  I would hope that we get something in; but we                                                             
     want to put something in that would preserve the ability to                                                                
     put a moving belt in, because I think ultimately you're going                                                              
     to need that.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Number 1415                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COWDERY stated his understanding that there was a                                                                
Senate hearing the previous week about passenger facility charges                                                               
(PFCs) that could add up to $5 million per year.  He said this                                                                  
project will go for four or five years from the time it is begun,                                                               
and it seems that PFCs could solve some of the funding problems.                                                                
He asked whether the DOT/PF has drafted any application for the                                                                 
PFCs.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. PARKAN replied:                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     We have started a process ... to draft up the PFC application.                                                             
     As we discussed in the recent PFC hearing that the committee                                                               
     had, we will go forward with an application, once we've                                                                    
     satisfied the exemption requirements that we feel we need to                                                               
     have before we can get the PFC approved. ... We are in the                                                                 
     process of drafting up our exemption requests.  We'll be                                                                   
     putting together our project lists; we have a meeting next                                                                 
     week to discuss this internally with our consultant who is                                                                 
     helping us with this project.  That application, if the                                                                    
     exemption language is approved administratively or through the                                                             
     legislative fix which we think is going to be necessary, could                                                             
     be ... as soon as this spring or as late as the fall.  We                                                                  
     won't go forward with an application until we have the                                                                     
     exemption language, however.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. PARKAN said they are getting the wheels turning.  They will get                                                             
it up to the point of whether or not the exemptions are included,                                                               
to basically exempt rural communities not connected by a road                                                                   
system, and then they will go forward with that.  He emphasized                                                                 
that LOIs are not used for terminal projects; in contrast, PFCs are                                                             
almost always used for building projects, and not used as much for                                                              
the airside projects.  If they used PFCs instead of the LOI, they                                                               
would potentially lose the LOI.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COWDERY asked that someone from the DOT/PF come by                                                               
his office in order to save the committee's time, to discuss some                                                               
of these matters before the oversight next week.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. PARKAN agreed to work that out.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 1609                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BILL HUDSON stated his understanding that HB 84                                                                  
increases the bond authorization from $280 million to $305 million,                                                             
which is the $25 million mentioned.  The additional bonds for $25                                                               
million would be underwritten by the proceeds or receipts over a                                                                
ten-year period, through the LOI from the federal government.  It                                                               
would not cost anything in general fund monies.  Furthermore, the                                                               
previous year the legislature had dealt with the need to expand the                                                             
airport terminal and had authorized the sale of bonds to cover                                                                  
that, which would in turn be paid for by the users of the airport.                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. PARKAN affirmed that.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HUDSON asked what the time line is for selling the                                                               
bonds.  He asked whether any had been advertised or sold yet.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. PARKAN said Deven Mitchell would address that in more detail,                                                               
but yes, they had sold the initial bonds for which they received                                                                
authorization the previous year; they had sold them in early                                                                    
February for $179 million.  They hope to sell these bonds this                                                                  
summer.  The process they went through with the bond rating                                                                     
agencies included this second issuance, and they have done a lot of                                                             
the "due diligence" necessary up front with the bond rating                                                                     
agencies.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HUDSON noted that last year the legislature had                                                                  
authorized the sale of $280 million in bonds.  He asked why it had                                                              
been that amount, rather than $180 million.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. PARKAN replied that they have outstanding bonds for the parking                                                             
structure at the airport, so it includes the existing                                                                           
authorization; it is a consolidation.  He believes the last bonds                                                               
were sold in 1986.  Time is critical for this additional $25                                                                    
million; those bonds need to be sold this year.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Number 1729                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER PERKINS explained:                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     If you [were] to look at the schedule, Representative Hudson,                                                              
     these items that are listed, we've got to have the money at                                                                
     the front end of all these items, as we award the contracts.                                                               
     So, you can see that the majority of the contracts are '99 and                                                             
     2000.  This time next year, we will have already needed to                                                                 
     award the contracts that these bonds will support.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 1776                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ALBERT KOOKESH expressed concern about taking too                                                                
much time on a minuscule $25 million to hold up a project worth                                                                 
$230 million.  He said he wants to do everything he can to help                                                                 
Anchorage gets a good airport, which he uses frequently.  He                                                                    
emphasized the need for the $25 million.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 1814                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. PARKAN informed members that because there would be a briefing                                                              
the next week on the total project, he would hold David Eberle's                                                                
testimony on the schedule until then.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HALCRO pointed out that as someone whose district                                                                
borders the airport, the airport is very important to him; he                                                                   
doesn't want to hold the project up and believes the additional                                                                 
bonds are important.  However, he believes that any time elected                                                                
officials ask questions about $25 million of taxpayers' money, the                                                              
questions are probably well-asked.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Number 1858                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
DEVEN MITCHELL, Acting Debt Manager, Treasury Division, Department                                                              
of Revenue, came forward.  He stated:                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     To begin, I'll give you a little history on the issuance of                                                                
     the $179 million in bonds from the authorization given last                                                                
     legislative session.  We were in mid-process, mid-issuance                                                                 
     process, when the LOI was approved, and we obtained the                                                                    
     authorization - or the authorization from the FAA - to receive                                                             
     the $25 million over the next ten years.  With that in mind,                                                               
     we altered our issuance strategy somewhat, as Kurt [Parkan]                                                                
     pointed out, to be sure to point out to the financial                                                                      
     community that we had the potential to issue this additional                                                               
     $25 million, given legislative approval.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     In that process, we met with the rating agencies who rate                                                                  
     municipal bonds:  Moody's [Moody's Investors Service],                                                                     
     Standard and Poor's, and Fitch [Fitch IBCA].  The                                                                          
     presentations that were given included the possibility of an                                                               
     additional $25 million in bonds.  The result of those rating                                                               
     presentations was very positive.  The airport system was                                                                   
     upgraded by Moody's from A to A-1; upgraded by Standard and                                                                
     Poor's from A-minus to A; and Fitch, who hadn't rated the                                                                  
     airport before, gave us an A-plus.  And I don't know if you                                                                
     know what that means, but of all the airports that are rated                                                               
     across the country, that puts us in the top 15 to 20 percent.                                                              
     And so, it really shows the quality, and the perception of                                                                 
     quality, that people have of the ... Alaska International                                                                  
     Airport system.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     The next area that ... the possibility of an additional $25                                                                
     million in bonds was discussed was the feasibility analysis                                                                
     that was done.  In order to issue the $179 million, we had to                                                              
     have a feasibility study done to demonstrate that the airport                                                              
     system was fiscally strong enough to support the payments on                                                               
     those bonds.  In that analysis, they included the potential,                                                               
     again, of an additional $25 million piece, and the payments                                                                
     that would be required for that additional piece. ... The                                                                  
     response from the feasibility consultant was that the airport                                                              
     is more than strong enough to support the outstanding bonds,                                                               
     as well as this additional $25 million piece.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     The next area where ... the potential of a $25 million                                                                     
     issuance was discussed was within the official statement, the                                                              
     official statement being the offering document for the $179                                                                
     million in bonds that was sold.  Again, the response was                                                                   
     overwhelmingly positive. ... The bonds were sold within the                                                                
     state of Alaska more prolifically than any issuance had been                                                               
     in the past, over $20 million sold to residents in the state                                                               
     of Alaska.  On a national level the original pricing, which                                                                
     was considered to be aggressive by the financial experts who                                                               
     were involved, the state bond committee and myself, the                                                                    
     response to that was that the bonds were oversold four times.                                                              
     We had $800 million in orders for these bonds, that we only                                                                
     had $179 million available.  We were able to reprice, and the                                                              
     result of that was that our average coupon for these bonds is                                                              
     less than 5 percent, 4.95 percent.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     The department has prepared a fiscal note for this additional                                                              
     $25 million in bonds.  The anticipated maturities of these                                                                 
     bonds are up to 25 years, that being based on the feasibility                                                              
     consultant's analysis and the -- Kurt [Parkan] could probably                                                              
     explain it more, but ... the FAA money being discretionary                                                                 
     funds, you want to ensure that your system has the ability to                                                              
     meet the liabilities that it has incurred.  So, if we were to                                                              
     go out and issue a ten-year maturity, then the system would                                                                
     have a harder time, if for some reason those discretionary                                                                 
     monies didn't come through.  There is the letter of intent                                                                 
     that demonstrates that the monies are expected to come in, but                                                             
     if they would not, then that would put an undue burden on the                                                              
     system.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MITCHELL concluded by saying that from a fiscal perspective,                                                                
the opportunity is there to ride the coattails of the very                                                                      
successful issuance they just closed in February.  The interest                                                                 
rate jumped one-half percent recently, and there is no guarantee                                                                
there would be such a low interest rate for the next issuance.                                                                  
However, they have positioned themselves to move forward if this                                                                
authorization is approved.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 2097                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HALCRO asked whether there is any method of                                                                      
recapturing the interest on the $25 million from the FAA or whether                                                             
the state will just be stuck with that cost.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MITCHELL replied that the interest on these bonds would be paid                                                             
by the system; it would come from the revenue fund.  It wouldn't be                                                             
captured, as currently anticipated.  There is an anticipated                                                                    
issuance size of $25 million, so the actual cost over the years                                                                 
would be more than $25 million.  He referred to the fiscal note.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HALCRO asked about the $2,189,000.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. MITCHELL explained that it would be the cost of the interest,                                                               
figured at 7 percent over 25 years.  Although that is very                                                                      
cautious, interest rates are subject to fluctuation and there is                                                                
that possibility.  For planning purposes, the department will use                                                               
that $2.2 million as the annual expense.  He added, "If it was the                                                              
committee's prerogative, the size of the issuance could be modified                                                             
to allow for the total of principal and interest, to equal the $25                                                              
million.  That would be subject, again, to the DOT side and how                                                                 
that would affect their ability to ... complete their project."                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Number 2176                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HALCRO asked whether this interest was taken into                                                                
account when the original cost of the project was figured.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. PARKAN referred to the "Uses of Funds" handout.  He pointed out                                                             
that under Finance Costs, the $24,700,000 next to the asterisk                                                                  
includes both issuances.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HALCRO asked whether the $24,700,000 includes that                                                               
amount, then.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. PARKAN affirmed that.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HALCRO asked what the interest rate had been on the                                                              
initial $179 million.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. MITCHELL replied that the average coupon was something like                                                                 
4.94 or 4.96 percent, essentially 4.95; that is an average over the                                                             
25 years "from a low in the 3s to a high in the 5s, percents."                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MASEK noted that there were no other testifiers in Juneau.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 2243                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. PARKAN informed Chair Masek that the DOT/PF had concluded its                                                               
testimony; Mort Plumb from the Anchorage International Airport and                                                              
others would be prepared to testify at the next week's project                                                                  
overview.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 2268                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CLIFFORD T. ARGUE, Staff Vice President, Properties and Facilities,                                                             
Alaska Airlines, testified via teleconference from Seattle,                                                                     
Washington, in support of HB 84.  He noted that he is also chairman                                                             
of the Anchorage and Fairbanks Airlines Airport Affairs Committee,                                                              
an organization that represents some 25 airlines which have signed                                                              
operating ageements and which serve those two airports.  He                                                                     
specified that his testimony would reflect the position of Alaska                                                               
Airlines, as well as most of the other members of the committee,                                                                
especially the following carriers:  Reeve Aleutian Airways                                                                      
Incorporated, Delta Air Lines, Northwest Airlines, Federal Express                                                              
("Fed-Ex"), United Airlines, Reno Air, United Parcel Service (UPS)                                                              
and American Airlines.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. ARGUE emphasized that HB 84 is not a request for new or                                                                     
additional funding, but it simply provides dollars required on a                                                                
cash-flow basis to pay for the terminal project, as originally                                                                  
approved by the airlines.  The airport improvement program grant                                                                
from the FAA, contemplated as part of the finance package last                                                                  
year, was not given in a lump sum but rather as a letter of intent,                                                             
to be paid over a ten-year period.  The bond issue will permit the                                                              
project to be built on schedule, then be repaid over the life of                                                                
the LOI.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. ARGUE stated, "This bond issue was part of our original deal,                                                               
and HB 84 should be approved as quickly as possible.  At the same                                                               
time, in accordance with earlier testimony that I and other airline                                                             
representatives gave to a recent joint Senate and House                                                                         
Transportation hearing, the Alaska International Airport system                                                                 
should immediately apply for - and this legislature should endorse                                                              
- the imposition and use of a $3 passenger facility charge to help                                                              
pay for the Anchorage terminal expansion project, as well as other                                                              
justified projects in Anchorage and Fairbanks airports.  There is                                                               
no reason to further delay the realization of this valuable source                                                              
of revenue to the airport system, especially when Alaskans are                                                                  
already paying PFCs, which benefit various airports throughout the                                                              
lower 48 states, and, more recently, to the municipal airport in                                                                
both Juneau and Ketchikan."                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Number 2361                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HUDSON stated, "We had last year indicated that we                                                               
needed this $25 million, and we anticipated getting it, apparently                                                              
in one lump sum, without debt service; and we cranked that cost                                                                 
into the overall project.  And now we find that we don't get it all                                                             
in one cost; we have to borrow it, and it will be paid for back                                                                 
over a ten-year period of time.  And I think, Representative                                                                    
[Halcro], you asked the question of whether or not the interest                                                                 
that would be accrued to this $25 million bond debt was to be                                                                   
reduced from the overall project cost, or it looks to me like we're                                                             
2-point-some million dollars short on the overall project, or                                                                   
2-point-some-odd million dollars more to be paid back, either by                                                                
user fees or some other source."                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. PARKAN again referred to the "Uses of Funds" handout.  He said                                                              
the $24,700,000 was for finance costs from the original plan of                                                                 
finance, when they developed the project with a $204 million bond                                                               
issuance.  He stated, "So, these are the same finance costs that we                                                             
had originally; they're not as a result of the $179 million bill,                                                               
but it was part of the original package."                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 2441                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. MITCHELL clarified that the $2 million is the cost of                                                                       
capitalized interest for the first two years of the issuance.                                                                   
There won't be any additional payments required of the air carriers                                                             
during the first two years, "as the interest payments will be made                                                              
from principal, and that's the $2 million that Representative                                                                   
Halcro was referring to."                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MASEK asked if there were further questions, then noted that                                                              
HB 84 has another committee referral.  She said that hearing the                                                                
testimony that day, and because of the urgency and nature of this                                                               
bill, she believes it would be good to move it forward.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 2467                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HUDSON made a motion to move HB 84 from committee                                                                
with individual recommendations and the attached fiscal note(s).                                                                
He asked unanimous consent.  There being no objection, HB 84 moved                                                              
from the House Transportation Standing Committee.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
TAPE 99-7, SIDE B                                                                                                               
Number 0006                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MASEK announced that the committee would invite the DOT/PF                                                                
and others involved with the airport to come before the committee                                                               
for an overview the following week, tentatively on Tuesday                                                                      
afternoon.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committee, the House                                                                 
Transportation Standing Committee meeting was adjourned at 2:10                                                                 
p.m.                                                                                                                            

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